But since you can't, I will absolutely continue to bring up the rather embarrassing fact that your worldview can't account for the preconditions of intelligibility or any aspect of reality in a non-arbitrary way, because really it makes you automatically wrong on so many of these issues we're discussing. Who created God? Where did he come from? How did he begin? Fallacies, all three questions – the fallacy of the complex question. You're circular reasoning, assuming your argument in order to ask a question you think can defeat mine. Each question should be broken into two questions (1) Was God created? (2) If so, how, and where did He come from? Then we can proceed in a logical and rational manner, which I will gladly do to answer the first question – was God created? No, of course not, that would be absurd. Because if a more powerful god created God, than an even more powerful god would have had to create the more powerful god who created God, thus leading to a never-ending chain of more and more powerful gods creating lesser gods and ending in God, which is an argument that, as it goes on for infinity, can never be completed – and an incomplete argument is irrational. The only logical solution, though in the limitations of our 4 dimensional reality it is very hard to understand, is that there is only one Omnipotent God who always existed. Certainly that is more rational than believing that out of nowhere, a violent explosion created the universe, having neither fuel, nor oxygen, nor heat, nor even space in which to exist beforehand, and that humanity arose from soup struck by lightning.
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And the concept that a being can have existed outside of time itself for eternity breaks the fabric of everything. The claim that the Bible is capable of creating a solid worldview yet also failing to explain the very being that creates it in a manner that is physically possible. The very teachings the Bible uses to explain gods existence could just easily be copied in a Marvel comic or some other figment of imagination. No matter what, every origin we try to create for ourselves or believe is real sounds hilariously dumb everytime we try to explain it to ourselves, from the Big Bang to creationism.
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How..? And Christianity is the only logical possibility, by the way... (hate to keep bringing this up, but I have to)
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There’s two concepts we’ve brought up here:
1: We all come from some divine being of ludicrously high power that managed to create every atom in the universe, and we down here on earth somehow understand and know that for a fact when we’ve barely managed to venture out into space or the universe at all.
2: The universe was formed from a random explosion of plasma and matter at a singular point that is the epicenter of the universe. We’re unsure where that is or what shape/form the universe has now, but we’re down here trying to figure that out for ourselves without any real being behind it other than the fact that it just… exists as far as we understand.
Both sound kinda ridiculous when you say them the right way, don’t you think?
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First off, you still haven't answered my question about HOW the concept of God's existence "breaks the fabric of everything" – and I honestly expected that, having made such a massive and bold claim, you'd have a very good reason for making it. Apparently I was wrong. Secondly, the concepts you mentioned are messed up, it should be:
1: God is real, he is Omnipotent, and he created the universe, revealed some of His thoughts to us via the Bible, but we rebelled against his will, resulting in all the problems we see in the world today, but Jesus offers us the hope… Read more
